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May 10th, 2005
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Seven
Watched "Seven" last night. Wasn't worth the two hours it took. The movie wasn't sad, wasn't deep and wasn't even interesting. And maybe the fact that I really dislike detective stories has something to do with that. The movie mostly reminded me of "The Saw". kaleydoskop said that it is similiar to "Silence of the Lambs", I've only read the book, but I can see where she is coming from. This movie is exactly like any other movie about a maniac killer and some cops who can't solve the riddle. There - thought of another one - Arlington Road - same thing. The fact that this movie has a religious underwriting only makes it worse.

A question this film raises is whether a person who had commited one of the seven deadly sins, but haven't crossed the law is innocent. Well, you better believe it he is. Because that is what the definition of the law is - back when the Bible was the law, a deadly sin could result in an execution (except, of course, for the clergy). But the Bible isn't the law anymore.

By living in a country, you agree with its set of laws - that means that if someone is innocent in the eyes of these laws - they are innocent. Regardless of the conflict between their actions and other laws - be they the Chrisitan Ten Commandments, the Christian Seven Deadly Sins, whatever rules that Allah set down or the laws of any other country.

So, I disagree with the point that this movie tried to pass across, and therefore I dislike the movie. Because that's why I watch the movies - for their point. I do have to give it though, it was well made. I am sure that people who either think that the Christian scripts are the universal law, or who like crime detective movies would love the film. Just not me. For each his own, right?

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From:arbelos
Date:May 10th, 2005 02:54 pm (UTC)
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I disagree that you have to agree with the laws of the country you live in. I think that's along the same lines as "You live in America - support America no matter what it does". There's a difference between obeying the law and agreeing with the law. If everyone agreed with laws, liquor stores would still be closed on Sundays in many parts on the East Coast.
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From:deema
Date:May 10th, 2005 05:27 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, you are right. "Obey" is a better word than "agree" in this case. That's what I meant.
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From:stan2004
Date:May 10th, 2005 03:32 pm (UTC)
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рекомендую, кстати, kitya
про Японию интересно пишет, про всякие места, кои следует посетить
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From:kaleydoskop
Date:May 11th, 2005 04:49 am (UTC)
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I'd like to think I fall in the category of people who (at least try deeply sincerely) to follow the Christian scripts. And am absolutely interested in this theme. You are right here, that's one of the reasons Seven was of interest to me.
Regarding laws and obeying or agreeing with them. I used to think there should be as many laws defining all variations of actions as possible (am I not not from a communist country :-) ). Well, fortunately I did change my mind. There is no way to live in a society without laws, and without obeying them. But there should be a minimum amount, and these are the Christian laws if you ask from me. Well, guidelines, for that matter. After all, we do have our free will and absolutely need (I love the word 'need' here) to exercise it!
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From:deema
Date:May 11th, 2005 02:24 pm (UTC)
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Christian laws? You really think that gluttony, envy, sloth, greed and pride are crimes? Now that's an original opinion. :) I'd like to see you persecute for envy or for pride. :)))
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From:kaleydoskop
Date:May 11th, 2005 03:13 pm (UTC)
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Ok, 'laws': I just used your terminoglogy from the main entry :-) and actually said they are more of guidelines.. (?)
Hopefully you won't see me persecute anyone for anything, since it's Really not up to me.
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From:kaleydoskop
Date:May 11th, 2005 05:09 am (UTC)

PS

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Some movies about maniacs, their reasoning, and how 'normal' people try to understand it are scarily fascinating. What scares and fascinates about this is reality. You can try to convince me that my apartment is haunted by ghosts, that I'll wake up in a computer game, whatever else of same sort. I will laugh. I will not laugh if you tell me about maniacs though.
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From:deema
Date:May 11th, 2005 02:24 pm (UTC)

Re: PS

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Gotcha, next time you need a bed tale, you will get a maniac story. :)
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From:kaleydoskop
Date:May 11th, 2005 03:15 pm (UTC)

Ой! Re: PS

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Димушка, ты мне bed tales рассказывать будешь?.. :-) Маманька, я вас боюся :-)
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